Claim CA325:
Creationists cannot get their views accepted by mainstream science because
they are prevented from publishing in mainstream scientific journals.
Source:
Response:
-  The priorities of creationism are politics and religious evangelism.
   Science is not very important to creationists in the first place.  The
   main reason that they do not get published in reputable science
   journals is that they do not try to publish there.  In a survey of
   editors of sixty-eight journals, only eighteen out of an estimated
   135,000 submissions were found that could be described as advocating
   creationism (Scott and Cole 1985).
   In the McLean v. Arkansas Board of Education creationism trial,
 the
   creationists complained to the judge that the scientific journals
   refused to consider their articles, but they were unable to produce any
   articles that had been refused publication.
 -  Creationists are free to publish in other venues, such as books and
   their own journals.  These venues are as reputable as their authors and
   editors.  Note that Darwin's major works were published in books.
 -  Creationists do get published in reputable peer-reviewed science
   journals when they do real science.  For example:
-  Steven A. Austin, Gordon W. Franz, and Eric G. Frost, "Amos's
      Earthquake: An Extraordinary Middle East Seismic Event of 750 B.C."
      (International Geology Review 42: 657, 2000)
 -  Leonard Brand on the Flood deposition interpretation of Coconino
      Sandstone (Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology
      28: 25-38, 1979; Geology 19: 1201-1204, 1991; Journal of
      Paleontology 70: 1004-1011, 1996)
 -  Harold G. Coffin on deposition environments of fossil trees
      (Journal of Paleontology 50: 539-543, 1976; Geology 11:
 298-299,
      1983)
 -  Robert Gentry on polonium haloes (American Journal of Physics,
      Proceedings 33: 878A, 1965; Science 184: 62-64, 1974;
      Science 194: 315-318, 1976)
 -  Grant Lambert on DNA error rates (Journal of Theoretical Biology
      107: 387-403, 1984)
 -  Jan Peckzis on mass estimates of dinosaurs (Journal of Theoretical
      Biology 132: 509-510, 1988; Journal of Paleontology 63:
 947-950,
      1989; Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 14: 520-533, 1995)
 -  Sigfried Scherer on ducks as a single kind (Journal für
      Ornithologie 123: 357-380, 1982; Zeitschrift für zoologische
      Systematik und Evolutionsforschung 24: 1-19, 1986)
 
   In addition, many creationists have published science articles not
   related to creationism.
 -  Scientists themselves are prevented from publishing in peer-reviewed
   journals when their science is not up to par.  The peer-review process
   prevents lots of substandard work from being published, even from
   noncreationists such as myself.  (The process, of course, is imperfect
   and produces a substantial borderline area, so some fairly good
   articles get rejected and some fairly poor ones get accepted.  On the
   whole, however, it keeps quality up.)  Creationists face no obstacles
   that mainstream scientists do not face themselves.
 -  Creationists prevent others from publishing critical views in
   creationist journals.  Glenn Morton, for example, has had papers
   rejected by the Creation Research Society Quarterly for violating
 their view that the Flood must be
   global and for criticizing Carl Froede's poor geology (Morton 1998).
 
Links:
Flank, Lenny. 1995.  Does science discriminate against creationists?
 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/discrim.htm
References:
-  Morton, Glenn. 1998, The letter the Creation Research Society Quarterly
 didn't want you to read.
   http://home.entouch.net/dmd/letter.htm
 -  Scott, E. C. and H. P. Cole. 1985.  The elusive scientific basis of
   creation "science", Quarterly Review of Biology 60: 21-30.
 
 
created  2003-6-23, modified  2004-1-13