Debating Creationists: Ed Conrad

Ed Conrad is talk.origins' kookiest kook, famous for his claim that he has found human remains hundreds of millions of years old in coalfields. (To most people, they just look like ordinary rocks.) Of course, Ed tends to be a little more skeptical of other people's finds:

June 10, 1997, JF:
First attempt to respond to Ed's request for evidence of human evolution.
Sep 9, 1997, JF:
Second attempt to respond to Ed's request for evidence of human evolution.
Oct 1, 1997, JF:
Third attempt to respond to Ed's request for evidence of human evolution.
Oct 13, 1997, EC:
Ed addresses the evidence with all the integrity anyone familiar with his performances on talk.origins would expect.


Article 251916 of talk.origins:
From: jimf@vangelis.co.symbios.com (Jim Foley)
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Still waiting for some evidence
Date: 10 Jun 1997 15:05:27 -0400
Message-ID: <5nk8ik$97j@herald.ks.symbios.com>

In article <33996ae1.8756375@news.sunlink.net>,
Ed Conrad <edconrad@sunlink.net> wrote:

>Look at me!
>I'm STILL WAITING FOR SOME EVIDENCE
>(of man's inhuman ancestry)
>to back up the evolutionists' contention.

What do you consider the following to be?

  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/sts5.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/oh24.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1813.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/java.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1470.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/3733.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/15000_side.jpg

Brief information on all these is available at
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html

-- 
Jim (Chris) Foley,                 jim.foley@symbios.com
Assoc. Prof. of Omphalic Envy      Research interest:
Department of Anthropology         Primitive hominids
University of Ediacara             (Australopithecus creationistii)



Article 262936 of talk.origins:
From: jim.foley@NOSPAM_symbios.com
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Now, let's see? WHERE were we?
Date: 9 Sep 1997 18:08:25 -0400
Message-ID: <5v4fgg$55n@herald.ks.symbios.com>

In article <3413d8dc.6019681@news.sunlink.net>,
Ed Conrad <conrad@sunlink.net> wrote:

>Oh, yes!
>Now I remember!
>A few weeks ago, I politely asked if anyone out there could kindly
>supply some none-rhetorical undisputable physical evidence that man
>evolved from inhuman primates.

Odd, I replied to a similar request from you back on June 10th, and my post
was ignored.  So let me try again.

What do you consider the following to be?

  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/sts5.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/oh24.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1813.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/java.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1470.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/3733.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/15000_side.jpg

Brief information on all these is available at
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html

-- 
Jim Foley                          jim.foley@NOSPAM_symbios.com
Assoc. Prof. of Omphalic Envy      Research interest:
Department of Anthropology         Primitive hominids
University of Ediacara             (Australopithecus creationistii)



Article 266178 of talk.origins:
From: jim.foley@NOSPAM_symbios.com
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Gutless N.Y Times, Washington Post  --  Kook EC-022
Date: 1 Oct 1997 16:45:24 -0400
Message-ID: <60u9s3$cgv@herald.ks.symbios.com>

In article <342cf5fd.7633251@news.sunlink.net>,
Ed Conrad <conrad@sunlink.net> wrote:

>I mean, after all, it is an established fact that these Howlers
>possess no physical evidence of any shape, form or kind to back
>their claim of an evolutionary stepladder ascent by inhuman cat-size,
>monkey-like primates of 65 million years ago (as the scientific
>textbooks so incorrectly maintain) to Homo sapiens sapiens.

What do you consider the following to be?

  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/sts5.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/oh24.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1813.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/java.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1470.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/3733.jpg
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/15000_side.jpg

Brief information on all these is available at
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html


>When I ask any of them to produce even as little as a scintilla
>of undeniable proof, I wind up getting a lot of hot air.

Odd, I've posted the above twice so far and gotten no response.

-- 
Jim Foley                          jim.foley@NOSPAM_symbios.com
Assoc. Prof. of Omphalic Envy      Research interest:
Department of Anthropology         Primitive hominids
University of Ediacara             (Australopithecus creationistii)



Article 267965 of talk.origins:
From: edconrad@sunlink.net (Ed Conrad)
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Truth  AND Consequences  -- Kook EC-032
Date: 13 Oct 1997 20:14:08 -0400
Message-ID: <3442b6ae.6525748@news.sunlink.net>


On 9 Oct 1997, jim.foley@NOSPAM_symbios.com wrote:

>Ed Conrad <conrad@sunlink.net> wrote:
>
>> May I take the liberty of informing you that there is nary a scintilla
>> of undeniable physical evidence backing up the scientific
>> establishment's insistence that man had evolved from the lowliest
>> primates of 65 million years ago.
>
> In that case, what are the following?
>
>  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/sts5.jpg
                          Cow manure?
>  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/oh24.jpg
                          Horse manure?
>  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1813.jpg
                         Turtle droppings?
>  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/java.jpg
                         Elephant dung?
>  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1470.jpg
                         Ostrich outage!
>  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/3733.jpg
                         Pigeon poop?
>  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/15000_side.jpg
                         Dinosaur do-do?

> Brief information on all these is available at
> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html

Thanks for the info, Jim. If we should decide to pay a visit,
would you suggest that we bring along our own clothespin?

                            ~~~~~~~
As I was saying before so rudely interrupted, there is *nary* a
scintilla of undeniable physical evidence backing up the scientific
establishment's insistence that man had evolved from the lowliest
primates of 65 million years ago.

The scientific establishment's boast that it indeed possesses such
clear-cut evidence ranks as the biggest -- and longest running -- con
job in all of science.

To put it in monetary terms, it is approximately 35 cents short of
a dollar.

The scientific establishment possesses *no* such undisputed
physical proof, only wishful thinking wrapped rather tightly -- rather
loosely? -- around a whole lot of hot air.

Ed Conrad
edconrad@sunlink.net

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